Nov 28, 2023
PHONY Populists Trump And Haley Begin To Show Their TRUE Colors
Donald Trump may identify as a populist, but his opponents were eager to attack when he posted about repealing Obamacare.
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Presidential candidate Nikki Haley,
a Republican, of course, has made it
pretty clear by now that she will do
the bidding of whatever billionaire
or corporate corporations want as long
as they're donating to her campaign.
We'll show you evidence of that
in just a moment.
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On the other hand, you have Donald Trump,
who likes to at least pay lip service
to the American people, claiming
that he prioritizes their interests
over the interests of the Republican
establishment or corporate America.
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But how different
are these politicians, really?
Well, let's take a look at the
substantive issues and more importantly,
the donors that have actually given to
both Republican presidential candidates.
So, for example, Donald Trump
has basically differentiated himself from
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his opponents, his Republican opponents,
by vowing to protect Social Security.
It's something that we've actually
given him some credit on
because, politically speaking, he's been
taking jabs at Ron DeSantis when.
Ron DeSantis wanted to privatize Social
Security or raise the retirement age.
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Nikki Haley, meanwhile, promised
to reform Social Security and Medicare
during a recent CNBC appearance.
Take a look.
Are you on board with cutting entitlements
in a big and meaningful way?
Social security goes bankrupt
in ten years.
Medicare goes bankrupt in eight.
Anyone that says they're not going
to take on entitlement reform means
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they're going to go in and be president
and leave the country bankrupt.
You can't do that.
Yes, we have to do entitlement reform,
but that doesn't mean you
touch anyone that's in the system.
We should keep our promises.
America should always keep our promises.
But for everybody coming into the system,
like my kids in their 20s, you change it.
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You say, we're going to raise the
retirement age to reflect life expectancy.
We're no longer going to do
cost of living increases.
We're going to do increases
based on inflation.
We're going to limit the benefits
on the wealthy, and we're going to expand
Medicare Advantage plans
so that we have more competition.
So there you have a traditional
conservative Republican who talks about
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the need to cut entitlement spending.
You'll hear this incessantly
by various Republicans.
This has been going on
for many, many decades.
Donald Trump, however, you know,
talks about wanting to protect
Social Security and Medicare.
Except he has these moments
where he slips and talks about dismantling
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the only improvement we experienced
in our health care system
during the Obama administration.
So he posted this recently
on Truth Social.
The cost of Obamacare is out of control.
Plus, it's not good health care.
I'm seriously looking at alternatives.
We had a couple of Republican senators
who campaigned for six years against it,
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and then raised their hand
not to terminate it.
It was a low point for the Republican
Party, but we should never give up.
Now, keep in mind that Trump pushed
to dismantle the Affordable Care Act
with no replacement in mind.
There was no legislation that was really
going to replace the Affordable Care Act
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with a better system that ensured
that the 20 million Americans
who still lack health insurance
would get the coverage that they need.
And by the way, this is just the latest
installment of Trump's years long crusade
against Medicare and Social Security.
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So I want to give you some more examples.
By the way, the Tea Party member
who felt that we weren't talking
about Trump enough on the show.
Congratulations.
So in a 1999 interview with NBC News's
Tim Russert, Trump said he didn't want
to privatize Social Security,
but was open to it in a 2020 interview.
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He later walked back.
Trump said cuts to entitlements
would eventually be on the table.
In another interview in 2020,
which he again walked back,
Trump said he'd be cutting entitlements.
And when a Fox News host noted
that trimming the national debt would
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require cutting entitlement programs,
Trump responded that it would be happening
along with economic growth.
Oh, will be cutting,
but we're also going to have growth
like you've never seen before, Trump said.
So clearly, I mean, on a very surface
level, Trump does appear to be a very
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different politician from the traditional
conservatism that Nikki Haley represents.
But when push comes to shove
and when it comes to the actual substance,
there's a lot of similarities here.
And I'm curious what you
think about that was.
The idea that Trump is populist.
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I don't think it's completely
ridiculous and off base.
Right?
Whether we like it or not,
within the conservative right wing base of
the country, stuff like closing the border
is a populist sentiment.
It's nativist as hell,
and oftentimes it's racist,
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but that's populist in a right wing form.
The stuff about trade where, you know,
obviously sending all those damn jobs
overseas so that we could get cheap goods
from places like China and Vietnam
and promising people,
oh, we're going to teach you how to code.
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That's how you pay your rent instead of
these amazing jobs that we've taken away.
That's very populist
to be anti trade deals.
Of course, Social Security and Medicare
are very popular programs.
It's just that these these these programs
are anti to
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what the establishment wants right.
Why does the establishment not mind
foreign labor coming into America.
They like cheap labor.
They like, you know, underpaying the hell
out of people who are here illegally.
You know, they really, really love that.
And that goes against what the base wants.
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Of course, shipping jobs overseas
for that very same reason
is what the party establishment wants.
Right. And so that's what you try.
That's what you see with Trump
when he's trying to walk that tightrope.
There's what he knows is popular
with the base of voters,
but all the people that are around him
is like, bro, you can't say that.
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You can't.
You can't say that you want
to strengthen Social Security.
No, these are things we want to cut.
You can't say that you want
to strengthen Medicare.
No. These are things you want to cut.
And so that's what you see
with the teeter totter with Trump.
It's what he knows instinctually is
popular amongst his base of supporters.
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And you know what?
The actual party apparatus and the people
who own the party care about know.
Was you make such an important distinction
because yes, there is a difference
between what Trump is willing to say
publicly because he understands.
To his credit, I'm going
to give him credit for this, okay?
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People can get mad if they want to,
but he is smart in understanding how to
win voters over what kind of statements,
what kind of tactics will go over well
with the American people.
And so he's great at marketing.
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But then you look at his budget proposals,
and I remember when he was in the
white House, one of those budget proposals
was looking to cut entitlement spending.
And so you're absolutely right
to draw that distinction.
You're also right to focus on, you know,
where I do think he's genuine
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in wanting to prevent immigration
here to the United States.
He's actually put action
behind those words.
It's not something that he
just simply engaged in rhetorically
for campaigning purposes.
Whereas, you know, you have Nikki Haley
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who talks the talk and if given the power,
will walk the walk.
And so I guess that's where the difference
is and why there seems to be
this treatment of Trump as a real populist
who's looking out for ordinary Americans.
Now, both Donald Trump and Nikki Haley,
though, are not so friendly to labor.
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Okay, there was this stunning moment
where Nikki Haley kind of bragged about,
well, not being a fan
or a supporter of labor unions.
And here's more of what she had to say.
When you have the most pro-union president
and he touts that he is emboldening
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the unions, this is what you get.
And I'll tell you who pays for it is the
taxpayers in South Carolina as governor.
I mean, we were building planes
with Boeing.
We were building more BMW
than any place in the world.
I recruited Mercedes Benz, I recruited
Volvo, we had five international tire
companies, but I was a union buster.
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I didn't want to bring in companies
that were unionized
simply because I didn't want to have
that change the environment in our state.
She's a union buster. She's proud of it.
And while Donald Trump talks
about bringing manufacturing jobs
back to the United States, as he basically
postures as a pro-labor individual,
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he's actually had an entire lifetime
of working against labor.
Here's some evidence on that.
In a new USA today expose
that found hundreds of former employees
and contractors have accused Donald Trump
and his businesses
of failing to pay them for their work.
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In 2008, during the Great Recession.
He blamed UAW members.
He blamed our contracts for everything
that was wrong with these companies.
That's that's that's a complete lie.
In 2015,
when he was running for president,
he talked about doing a rotation, taking
all these good paying jobs in the Midwest
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and moving them somewhere in the South.
He appointed Eugene Scalia, one
of the nation's top anti-union lawyers,
to be his secretary of Labor.
Under Trump's administration,
the National Labor Relations Board
implemented sweeping new rules
that make it made it harder for workers to
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form unions Trump packed the courts with.
With anti-labor judges,
people like Thomas Farr.
President Trump made it harder
for workers to earn overtime,
and he gutted the federal agency
in charge of workplace safety.
And look, if Trump's supporters are
totally okay with that, then that's fine.
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I just take issue with him being presented
as someone who's actually looking out
for the best interests of ordinary working
people in the United States of America.
His actions have kind of gone against that
narrative, and I think that was a good
example of what I'm talking about here.
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Was any final words?
Yeah.
It's all of the the so called
populism is just is rhetorical.
He cannot the how I try to explain it to
people about these systems, whether it be
our political system, whether it be, you
know, the corporate systems, Donald Trump
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or any other Republican president can't
really go in there under the Republican
Party apparatus and start not acting like
what that machine is there to do.
So he might say, look, guys,
we're not going to come in on my watch
and steal Social Security
and Medicare for my voters.
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No, but you know what?
Let's let's let's pass a record breaking
tax cut and move on with our lives.
That's deeply unpopular, too.
But we're not going to just
completely cook my popularity that way.
But of course, he's not going to do the
opposite, which is stuff that strengthens
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those programs that he claims
to love so much in his speeches.
Like the party apparatus is not set
up to buttress sources like their donors,
and their owners don't want that.
They can't do that.
That would be impossible for him to do.
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So yeah, he's going to do
all the rhetorical tricks and flares and
all of that stuff as much as he wants to,
but yeah, and to get to Nikki Haley.
Yeah, she is just telling you
what the truth is.
Yeah.
I think her mistake is that she thinks
that these talking points actually work.
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This is not 1988.
You are not Ronald Reagan.
People understand that what's good for
some company and their bottom line
is not necessarily good for one consumers.
And to the people who actually work
for those companies, I think
people are making those distinctions.
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- And Nikki Haley is making a mistake.
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