Welcome back to The Young Turks, Cenk Uygur, Ana Cusperian, and Hasan Piker joins us. So now that both Hasan and I are here, you are at serious risk of public disorder. So mayhem might break out at any second now. So we're both on Hasan's stream on Twitch and uh our [00:00:18] show on YouTube and everywhere else. So, um Can I start off with something a little different? So we're going to talk about Cenk and Hassan getting banned from the UK. But I see this as part of a broader campaign targeting you, Hass, because I don't like being put in a situation [00:00:37] where I have to defend you. I'm just going to keep it 100. But Dave Rubin went on a show and claimed that you harassed me and other women at work, which was a brazen lie. said that [00:00:54] it was a brazen lie, you never once harassed me at work. What do you think this is about? And why do you think it's okay? Or why do they think it's okay to just make up lies about you like that? mean, sexual harassment is a serious allegation. And for Dave Rubin, who [00:01:11] I haven't spoken to in over a decade, to speak on my behalf like that and make something up is insane. Yeah, I think- It's a campaign of misinformation and smearing prominent critics of Israel no matter which way they can. And it's very obvious that ah they're getting increasingly [00:01:30] more desperate. Now with Dave Rubin, it's a unique predicament because on the one hand, I'm thinking like, is this a part of a broader sophisticated smear campaign? Or rather, is it simply just Dave Rubin being stupid? because he's just so unbelievably stupid. So [00:01:47] with Dave Rubin, got to think about both of the options. But ah yeah, I do see a coordinated effort. Fox News is probably watching this broadcast right now. They have people stationed uh on my broadcast every single day. They just do like a transcript readout of every single thing [00:02:06] that I talk about and post about it and publish it. uh On the other side, this is uh obviously escalated since the subpoena, which I never received by the way. uh But Will Kane, uh was talking about how some counter protesters that were at the Delaney facility in New Jersey [00:02:24] that I went to with Adam Hammowy, who's running for Congress in New Jersey to check out uh the uh heinous conditions inside of the facility. And to hear from the protesters [00:02:39] about the ways in which the state troopers in New Jersey and the federal ICE officers were actually brutalizing them for exercising their First Amendment rights. There were a lot of agitators, lot of counter protesters that were pro-ice and disruptors that were there specifically [00:02:54] to yell at the protesters, they of course yelled at me as well. And Will Cain earlier today covered that uh as though it was actually the the ICE protesters that were yelling at me. So I feel like there's uh this effort to slander and smear prominent critics of Israel, prominent [00:03:13] critics of the Trump administration. no matter which way they can. There's obviously uh a uh bipartisan effort in some respects. Josh Gottheimer earlier today also said I was uh because I called the Israel Day Parade that took place that had Bezalel Smatresh on a Nazi [00:03:32] parade. I said there's Nazis at this parade. It's a Nazi parade and prominent Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Kathy Hokel were participating in a Nazi parade and And Josh Gottheimer didn't like that. oh And he was saying, I've defended Hamas and therefore, maybe my read for who's [00:03:51] a Nazi is broken. He's been ducking me. I've told him I'd be willing to have like regular discourse with him. ah But yeah, none of these guys want to actually entertain the conversation. They can't actually attack the message. They can't counter message, so they attack the messenger [00:04:11] in despair, that's all they know. But I think people are fed up with it. They'll call you anti-Semitic, but they'll never call you wrong, right? They never engage with the substance of what you're saying. So it doesn't surprise me at all that Gottheimer's running away. If he sat down and engaged in a debate with you, I mean, what's the substance of his argument? [00:04:28] You can't defend the indefensible. We all see what's happening in Gaza. We all see what's happening in Lebanon. We see the entire global economy being destroyed right now as we speak because of this war that the US got dragged into against Iran by Israel. I just feel like, [00:04:45] look, everything that's happening right now, they think it's going to work, like these bans, they think it's going to work, the censorship, they think it's going to work. Everyone sees what's going on and in fact, everything they're doing is actually incredibly counterproductive to what they want to accomplish here. Yeah. So Hass, uh to that point, How do you think [00:05:05] that the rest of this plays out, right? I don't mean about the UK, we'll come back to them in terms of whether we're ever allowed to go there again. I mean, it's hilarious, you were just there a little while ago, I was just there a little while ago, mayhem didn't break out, the public order wasn't immediately destroyed, right? But so it feels like the powerful [00:05:26] in the US and the UK and in a lot of Western countries, but not all of them, uh are starting to their grip, and that they've lost the media wars. So they're just going to outright oppression. But now the overwhelming majority of British citizens and American citizens are [00:05:43] on our side, not their side. So how does this movie end? I mean, I think inevitably there's going to be too much public pressure. 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And unfortunately, ah what a lot of people either don't understand or are moving in the direction of is exactly that. What did the UK do? They prescribed Palestine Action as a terrorist organization, and then they started arresting [00:08:30] en masse thousands of pensioners, ah disabled protesters, young people that would dare to say that they support Palestine Action. ah Well, they're so dangerous. They're so dangerous. All those elderly people that they rounded up and arrested, so dangerous. And by the way, [00:08:47] Haas, Cenk alluded to the fact that you were in the UK not that long ago. And I want to show everyone what you were talking about when you were in the UK not too long ago. Let's take a look at that. Anti-Semitism is a canary in the coal mine of fascism. It's one of the [00:09:03] oldest bigotries that has caused those of the Jewish faith a tremendous amount of pain. From pogroms to the Holocaust, Jews have always been singled out by those in power as a scapegoat for instability and economic volatility people in power cause. A resilient nascent anti-Semitism [00:09:21] is a constant threat, especially as economic instability makes those in power seek out old targets. They're not very creative usually, they just always rehash the same propaganda over and over again. This is precisely the reason why I am terrified of the conflation [00:09:40] of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism. The conflation is dangerous. Valid criticisms against the state, especially as all of the violence is unfolding, and everyone can see it. Valid [00:09:56] criticisms against the state committing these atrocities and tying it back to Judaism is a cynical ploy. to stop all matter of conversation is truly terrifying. And I think it directly [00:10:11] causes anti-Semitism to fester. And look, I agree with everything you said there. And I don't see the Zionist project as a project that seeks to protect the Jewish population. In fact, they couldn't care less about anti-Zionist Jews and the treatment of anti-Zionist Jews [00:10:28] makes that abundantly clear to me. I mean, look at the way they talk about people like Dave Smith. uh Glenn Greenwald and others. And it's just, it's amazing to me that the people who are getting punished right now are those who have a problem with mass slaughter campaigns and land theft. It's insane. That's not really a question. I just wanted to make that statement. [00:10:49] I'm curious for Hans to finish his thought. So now that the audience has seen, of course you didn't say anything anti-Semitic. In fact, you said the exact opposite, literally the exact opposite, right? So but how does this movie end? Because now our governments say, We don't care what you think. It doesn't matter. We're just going to oppress you on behalf of [00:11:06] Israel. Yeah, don't know. There's only two options out of this obviously. It's either de-escalation on behalf of the British government, on behalf of the American government. And we have seen some de-escalation on other issues from the American government like in Minneapolis [00:11:24] where there was far too much public pressure through these people backed. campaigns of uh people going out and protesting against ICE activity. It was an occupation by the Trump administration and there was some success there. So even the most powerful country on Earth, [00:11:40] the United States of America was uh able to cave and capitulate to the demands by the public when it got uh far too heated, I guess. And of course they ended up uh assassinating two American citizens in broad daylight in the process. I guess a similar thing could take [00:12:00] place in the UK with this issue as long as the protests continue. Because like I said, at the end of the day, they have to make a decision. Are they going to allow fascism to manifest? Or are they going to maintain the pretense that democracy and the democratic process still [00:12:17] works? because it's gotten to a degree where the overwhelming majorities of masses in almost all of the uh Western countries. have realized what's going on and they can't really arrest every single person, right? So they might have the money to interest, they might have a pervasive [00:12:37] sophisticated influence peddling operation that they've utilized for decades. But we have the people ah and the people are not giving in. As a matter of fact, this kind of uh additional state repression only angers the people further. And it actually causes people who were maybe [00:12:57] on the sidelines, who might have seen the violence but never really thought about it all that much because it's just happening over there. Or maybe you're afraid of Muslims and think they might have deserved this kind of violence or whatever. To now second guess, to now [00:13:12] actually become participants because what people don't appreciate is being bullied. What people don't like is cancel culture and Israel loves bullying people. uh Israel's envoys, Israel's uh most prominent defenders are some of the most annoying people you've ever encountered. [00:13:33] So when they go on television and demand with maximum arrogance, with maximum hubris, unconditional support. And then they turn around and say, if you say no to that unconditional support, you're an enemy and you need to be deplatformed. You need to lose your job. You can't live [00:13:51] in polite society anymore. You can't exist as a normal person. Well, then that causes a lot of people to get frustrated at Israel even more than they previously would have. I've even brought this example up with the UAE. There is no United Arab Emirates lobby in the United [00:14:07] States of America. Sure, they directly give money as little Israel to Donald Trump and whatnot. But ultimately, there isn't this sophisticated uh media machine uh working at the behest of the United Arab Emirates that says, if you ever bring up Sudan, You're actually an Islamophobe [00:14:26] and therefore you need to be punished, you need to lose your job. But if that was the case, I think that a lot more Americans would be paying attention to what the United Arab Emirates is doing. And I think the Zionist lobby is suffering from its own success. For years [00:14:42] and years, they went uncontested. It was unconditional. There's bipartisan support for Israel and anyone that ever uh questioned that would be an anti-Semite and there was a lot of weight to that criticism. There was a lot of weight to that accusation. Now that's gone. And [00:15:00] the reason why that's gone is because everyone understands that Israel is committing a genocide. And that genocide has caused people to look back at Israel's history, Israel's development and Zionism as an ideology. And it's caused people to understand that perhaps they totally [00:15:17] misunderstood the history of Israel for the longest time. And the toothpaste is out of the tube. So either governments that are uh controlled and have some sense of responsibility [00:15:33] to the masses will turn around and say, all right, enough is enough. We have to cut ties with Israel. We have to restrain Israel. This coalition that we've designed can't continue or they're going to become just like Israel, as I said, they're going to turn into fascist [00:15:49] countries. I'm worried, mean, things look very bleak. And you pointed to the event that took place in New York City over the weekend. And I want to kind of flesh that out a little bit for the audience in case they missed that story. Because Israel's far right finance minister, [00:16:06] Bozalel Smotrich, was seen in New York City alongside Democrats. This is for the Israel Day Parade over the weekend. Now, Zoran Mamdani, the mayor of New York City, he was facing all this backlash because he's the first mayor in 61 years who refused to attend the Israel Day [00:16:26] Parade. And I'm glad that he did refuse considering the fact that there was a little war criminal there. So let's take a look at this J Street post on X. They write, Basilel Smotra should be sanctioned by American political and Jewish communal leaders not marching alongside them [00:16:41] in the streets of New York City. Smotrich is the architect of the Israeli government's policies to ultimately annex the West Bank. Said that it may be just and moral to starve 2 million Gaza residents, uh but no one in the world uh would let us. He is a supporter of greater [00:16:59] Israel, we all know what that is. Believes Palestinians aren't even real people or a people and is uh someone who has played a huge role in annexing parts of the West Bank, forcing people, Palestinians namely, out of their homes. The International Criminal Court even has a [00:17:19] warrant out for his arrest. Take a look at this headline, exclusive ICC prosecutor's office seeks arrest warrant for Israel Smutrich. He's marching alongside Chuck Schumer and a whole host of other Democrats at this parade over the same weekend that you and Cenk get banned [00:17:36] from the UK because you speak out against these atrocities. It's a flex. There's no other way to read it than it's a flex. They're flexing on us. They get to have tremendous power uh and tremendous influence over what Western countries do and can't do. And this is a product of [00:17:57] that. ah There's no other way to read it as anything but uh a uh direct threat to what the American government or what the American public has to say. That's what I think is going on. It's about sending a message. That's why Bezalel Smotrich is there. And you brought [00:18:16] up J Street and I find that really funny because liberal Zionism is inherently contradictory. This is one of the things that people get very mad at me about because I say liberal Zionism is like saying you're a liberal Nazi because Zionism is racism, Zionism is Nazism. And [00:18:31] a lot of people get very frustrated with this. And as a matter of fact, Dre Street's president has gotten very frustrated with this. He's had conversations about the sentiment with the Podjons over at Pod Save America. um And this is a direct demonstration of that inherent [00:18:49] contradiction. Because there were a lot of statements that came in the aftermath of uh the news articles that came out about Bezalel Smoster's being at the Israel parade. And some people were trying to say, snuck in. Or some people were claiming that no one knew [00:19:05] he was going to be there. And it's it's the Israel parade. If you go to the Klan march, you're going to have the grand wizard of the KKK at the Klan march. You can't turn around and be shocked and act all surprised that a uh member of the Israeli cabinet, the finance [00:19:23] minister of the nation state that you're choosing to celebrate, appear at the actual celebration. Of course he's going to be there, right? um So I think all of the ass covering that Kathy Hokel and even Alex Boris, which is very disappointing that he attended that as well. He's too young, [00:19:43] he knows better and his father knows better too. um But all these people that are like, I can't believe that the Nazi was at the Nazi parade are just trying to engage in this same uh liberal cognitive dissonance. uh The idea that liberal Zionism is in some ways uh different [00:20:06] than the ultra Zionism demonstrated by Bezalot Smotrich. It's not, he's a part of the Israeli government. uh He is perhaps the purest expression of the Israeli state's violence against Palestinians. It's racism that harbors against non-Jews uh and Jewish supremacy. Of course he's going [00:20:26] to be there. He was elected and he has every right to be there if you're going to throw an Israel Day Parade. You shouldn't throw an Israel Day Parade and you certainly shouldn't participate in the Israel Parade if you don't want to be caught next to war criminals. Yeah, [00:20:42] so Hassan, I was going to ask you about labor and the Democrats. I'll come back to that. there's something you said there that I'm curious about. So look, you look back at Zionism, I think you're totally right about one of the things that you said where you said. Now that all these atrocities has made us look back and we were taught uh in America when I was [00:21:03] growing up here that 1948 was the Arabs attacked the poor Israelis for no reason at all. And like the Israelis were the victims now you realize no, it was ethnic cleansing. That's what the knockball was. They drove out 750,000 Palestinians from their lands. They slaughtered them and [00:21:22] killed them and that's why people had to run. And so our media lied to us about that. They lied to us about 1967, where again Israel attacked its neighbors. We were taught that they were attacked. It's just not true. Now people go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, of course we [00:21:37] lied about that. So I understand all that background, no question about it. And so when you look back at it, should they have done this Zionism idea which has ethnic cleansing built into it in order to be a settler colony? Now that seems hard to defend, sir. Now, Israel already [00:21:54] exists. So if today, uh Israel and the Palestinians made a deal, when they had two states, assume for a second that that's remotely possible. And it was based on the 1967 borders, and they were both two independent safe states. I would take that deal in a second, no matter [00:22:13] how wrong Zionism was in the beginning. Would you take that deal or do you think that's, since Zionism is wrong, it's unconscionable? I personally think that it's just not up to me. I think that whatever is good for the Palestinians, like Palestinian statehood is good for the [00:22:31] Palestinians. That's what they're trying to move towards. If that means that there is a two state deal with 1967 borders and Palestinians are happy with that, who am I to tell them no? I say I'm a one stater for the reasons that you just brought up, right? And there are some [00:22:48] people who actually disagree with me on this as well. But the reason why I said I'm a one stater is the same reason why Avi Shalim also eventually arrived at that same conclusion. And I believe so did Ilan Pappé. These are two very prominent new historians from Israel. They're Jewish. They uncovered a lot of the atrocities that took place during the Nakba [00:23:10] and after the Nakba as well. Avi Shalim specifically about what the experience for uh Arab Jews was like moving to Israel and why they had to move to Israel. And then Ilan Pappé specifically about Plan Dalit. So their assessment is the same as mine. They look at 750,000 Jewish [00:23:31] settlers that now illegally occupy both Eastern Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank, the occupied West Bank that is currently occupied illegally by the Israeli state uh to specifically design a non-contiguous Palestinian state. And the removal of 750,000 Jewish settlers from [00:23:52] the occupied West Bank is virtually impossible. I don't think that they would ever do it. Israel had a very hard time removing settlers from the Sinai Peninsula at the time. And they had an even harder time removing only 7,000 Israeli Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip. they pulled [00:24:15] out of the Gaza Strip to hermetically seal it uh and create the world's largest open air prison. They had to genuinely go there by force and remove people at gunpoint, right? 750,000 of the most rabid uh ultra Zionists are most likely never going to leave unless they have [00:24:33] to leave because they have to live in a bi-national state or a single solitary secular state that now- places non-Jews and Jews in the same civil court system. ah What I envision uh is what [00:24:49] would look a lot like reconstruction, but hopefully not a failure like reconstruction inevitably was. What I predict in that situation would that there would still be violence, of course, in the initial stages, but most likely violence resembling the Klan violence that took place [00:25:05] uh in uh segregated. ah in the segregated American South. ah But that is my North Star. That's what I think is the best possible outcome here. That's the most moral outcome, which of course [00:25:21] would still ah offer reparations to the Palestinians for stolen land and also death and destruction that befell them at the hands of Israel. ah And beyond the reparations, ah certainly a right to return to all 15 million Palestinians. ah So that's That's what I believe is just [00:25:39] and moral and that's what I will continue to advocate for. But if there's a 1967 boundary to state with a standing military, not something that Yitzhak Rabin even was on board with. If you recall, lot of ah Israelis will say he was a peacenake, he was a blowhard. Yitzhak [00:25:57] Rabin was uh the head of security, internal security at the time when the first intifada was taking place. And he was famous for demanding that the Israeli military break that bones. of little children. They did this by the tens of thousands, little Palestinian kids whose hands were broken on purpose because a stone throwing had become a symbol of the Palestinian [00:26:17] resistance in the first Intifada. That guy always said that there would be a two state, but the second state would never be a full state. It would be a reduced version of an actual state. And what that implies is ah that the Palestinians would never have full sovereignty. [00:26:37] They would never have a standing military, for example. So that's the reason why I always look at the two state solution as simply a continuation of what's actually taking place right now. A one state that is an apartheid state, a one state that is uh dominating and occupying Gaza, [00:26:55] and also occupying the West Bank as well. And destroying Palestinian lives and livelihood in both of these territories. And dangling this fake two state solution in front of liberal blowhards in the Western world to make it seem like there is actually a peaceable solution [00:27:13] out when it's just a continuation of the destruction of Palestinians with the final purpose of complete ethnic cleansing from their indigenous lands. And they're not going to stop there as we've learned with what they're currently doing in Lebanon. And so this is a project that spans [00:27:32] far beyond Palestinian territory. And it's not going to stop unless these so called liberal democracies do something to stop it and stop enabling and emboldening the Israelis to do it. Yeah, so I think last thing here. So I agree with you guys on a bunch of things including [00:27:53] um at some point the dams going to break. I mean, So people get offended that Haas called them Nazis or whatever, right? uh But wait a minute, the Knesset voted that Palestinians will never be free. The Israelis have said even their theoretical peace thinks that no, [00:28:13] the Palestinians can never have a full state, right? Let alone, I don't mean all the peace things. There's a lot of good people like Gideon Levy, etc in Israel, But any of the-. Yeah, anti-Zionists. Yeah, but the Zionists say no, the Palestinians will never be free. And presumably [00:28:30] they'll always live in these open air camps or even, can I say concentration camp? They are concentrated in a tiny area of Gaza. Netanyahu bragged that they've taken 70 % of Gaza and they've stuffed 2.2 million people of what's left of the small portion of Gaza. I mean, [00:28:48] what is that if it's not a camp where that is concentrated full of millions of people? So if you're offended by our words instead of what Israel has actually done, Well, that shows moral weakness on your part. Let me read some offensive words real quick. This is a statement [00:29:04] from Basel El Smotrich on Channel 14. This is one of his latest comments. In the West Bank, we are destroying more Palestinian family homes than they can build. We are demolishing residential buildings of four, five, and even six stories. Now there is much more destruction and demolition [00:29:23] of Palestinian homes. I think those are the types of statements that people should be offended by. Yeah, and we're going to show later in the show, uh Ben Gavir talking about how they're going to bomb the suburbs of Beirut and mass civilian casualties. And because that's what [00:29:41] Israel does. then we have, look, to me, the number one thing holding this stamp together is American mainstream media. Because without the propaganda, this is not a close question. Why would anybody want to finance these sick atrocities? The American people are not anywhere [00:30:00] near that evil. American media is that evil. They say you have to finance it, otherwise we'll ruin your life by calling an anti-Semite. Anyway, so look, all this is clear, tyt.com slash UK ban, which is just a little petition to say reverse the ban, that's fun. But Hass, [00:30:18] the last question I wanted to ask you is, So you see labor wrapping their arms, uh bear hugging Isaac Herzog, the head of the Israeli Air Force and going, my God, these guys who committed a genocide are wonderful. But the guys opposed to a genocide are evil, right? [00:30:34] And then here in America, as you guys are pointing out, the Democrats are like, yeah, I'll go to a parade with a guy who committed a genocide. And in fact, it's one of the biggest advocates. If there was any justice in the world, would be the first guy up in the Nuremberg type of trials. And so and they go, yeah, that's legitimate, but Hassan campaigning with Abdul El-Said, [00:30:52] disqualifying and illegitimate, etc. So is there any hope left for the Democratic Party and the Labor Party, which appear to be the fake left in both of these countries? Or and if there is no hope, what do we do next? So I don't think there's any hope left for the [00:31:08] Labor Party and that is entirely in the hands of the Jeremy Corbyn assassin himself, Keir Starmer. uh deliberately destroyed the actual populist wing of their party. And they did [00:31:23] it at the behest of Israel as well. Labor Friends of Israel was a huge part of the fake anti-Semitism smears and accusations that Jeremy Corbyn was inundated with. And Akir Starmer uh famously said, if you don't like what I'm doing, you can leave the party and many people did. Where [00:31:40] did they go? They went to the Green Party that is uh being led by Zach Polanski. uh who is a wonderful guy, he's anti-Zionist, he's also Jewish. They attack him quite a bit uh because of his anti-Zionism, ironically enough. He has withstood some of the most heinous smears [00:31:58] I've ever seen. British media can be very, very vicious, even far more vicious than the American media at times. so there is an alternative there. uh With the Democratic Party, uh A lot of people get mad at me for saying this as well, but I see a very weak party. The party uh [00:32:17] is not a real party, right? It's a coalition of different corporate interests and foreign lobbies at times. And by foreign lobbies, I just mean Israel, let's be real. There isn't like a profound Estonian lobby that is dominating Democratic Party attitudes if we're being [00:32:33] real. there is a real disconnect between ah those who are voting for the Democrats and what their demands are and what the Democrats are willing to concede to on those demands. ah And therefore, I see this as a wonderful opportunity uh in all of this weakness to [00:32:51] force in as many responsive politicians in this uh insurgent Bernie-Crat uh coalition that is forming all around the country. There are plenty of democratic socialists who are open socialists. And even those who aren't socialists but have similar interests and [00:33:11] similar goals, similar policy goals, who are willing to be the fighters that will hopefully change American trajectory from the downward trajectory that we've been experiencing for the past couple of decades into a more positive one. People who aren't afraid to say, why [00:33:26] do we have so much loyalty to the nation state of Israel when it's very clear that it's done a genocide, when it's very clear that it's an apartheid state. Why are we constantly waging wars with other countries and spending billions of dollars of tax revenue? We should instead [00:33:42] take that money and spend it on ourselves, all this productive output that's being stolen from the average American. Things that actually Donald Trump lied about and lied his way to the office twice as a matter of fact, isolationism, America first. These were important concepts [00:33:58] that Trump advanced that he never really followed through on. But I do believe that there are those who are invested in following through on this. And as long as the Democrats don't expel people like myself and the candidates that I work with ah in the primary system, [00:34:19] as they've had a very hard time dealing with Democrats who are actively pushing the needle on these issues. I'm going to continue trying to win as much power for people who do abide by uh anti-Zionism and who want Medicare for all, who want to end uh America's endless [00:34:39] militarism. Yep, all right, so everybody check out Hassan's show on Twitch, but you could also see clips on YouTube. So check out his channel there as well. We've got a fun shirt up on shoptyt.com about how we were both banned in the UK. I guess we're outlaws and enemies [00:34:56] of the crown, which is kind of badass. uh And by the way, Haas, I realized this today. We, uh I believe, are the only ones to have two family members banned by the United Kingdom. So hence the most dangerous family in the history of- Hell yeah. The British Empire is right. [00:35:15] Okay, so I didn't think that we'd get that kind of, I don't know, in a sense an accolade or an honor of some sort. And let me double down on what Haas said. Zach Polanski, head of the Green Party in the UK is awesome. Make sure you check that out. uh And that's a really [00:35:31] legitimate way to go in the United Kingdom. And here in America, the takeover Democratic Party, I don't believe in 2028 should even be that difficult. So most of the candidates are going to be pro Israel and tell us how wonderful that country is. And you will find the candidates [00:35:48] that are authentically in favor of American sovereignty instead of serving another country. And I think that we could do that in 28. uh Thanks, Hass, we appreciate it. And we'll see if we can ever go back to the UK and maybe we'll do that speech at Oxford Union together anyway, [00:36:06] because Oxford Union is trying to put that together even if it's virtual. So that might even be later this week, so everybody can check that out. And when we come back later in the program, uh what we're going to do next is how Israel's currently destroying the peace plan [00:36:22] that we have by defying Donald Trump and bombing Lebanon. So Hans, thanks for joining us, really appreciate it. All right, thanks for having me. Bye guys. Yep, see you in Thanksgiving. uh