This is the most self-destructive temper tantrum stuff, and is the equivalent of going off the coast of San Diego and just for a day, throwing rotten chicken blood into the ocean. Great white sharks will show up probably in a few hours. [00:00:19] Today, Alex Jones stated that President Donald Trump is engaging in a self-destructive temper tantrum over the backlash toward the administration for refusing to release the Epstein files. And he had a lot more criticism of Trump where that came from. [00:00:36] Jake, I'm going to just immediately toss to you because enjoy your victory lap. Go ahead. Yeah. No, guys, look, it's so this is really important. It isn't about ha ha, we were right. And literally every other not literally and not every, but most other left wing [00:00:54] hosts that told you they'll never turn. They'll all agree 100% with Trump on everything, their cult, etc. Or yeah, they were wrong and They could move the goalpost. Oh, they. They're not saying slay queen to Kamala Harris so it doesn't count. Okay, whatever. You can do whatever you want. [00:01:10] But for you guys out there that aren't in this silly media games and stuff, we need to win over independent voters. We're not going to win over Alex Jones. You're crazy. Okay, but the fact that Alex Jones is saying no Trump is wrong [00:01:27] and I'm mad at him, etc. We're not a cult. It gets people thinking independently once you get. And Alex Jones fans are the least likely to be converted, right? But especially for the independents that are the closest to us that voted for Obama before that voted for Bernie before. [00:01:44] If you get them looking at each issue and going, yeah, you're right, I actually agree with you on that or I don't agree on that. And then at the end of the day, they're going to say, wait, you guys, the left is the populist left, not the establishment Democrats, not the corporate guys. But like, yeah, we do agree with you on antiwar and anti-corruption. [00:02:02] Oh, you guys have been saying it all along. We do agree with you on paid family leave and higher wages and lower drug prices. So focus on what's important. But yes, this break within the Trump ecosystem is massively important because it it gets [00:02:20] people thinking and you want them thinking and you want them looking around so that they can find the populist left. And if they don't like it, no problem. But okay. But at least we've got to get that option in front of them. And this helps tremendously. Now Alex Jones is hitting Trump. [00:02:37] Look, it's super noticeable because as we all know, Jones has been very reluctant to criticize Trump publicly. There have been some previous examples, but certainly nothing as overt and aggressive as what we're seeing today. Now, in previous days, he has theorized that Trump is not releasing the Epstein [00:02:55] files in order to save the stock market, while also accusing the Democrats of fabricating the contents of the Epstein files. So, look, we still have a lot of issues with Alex Jones here, but let's take a look at more of what he had to say. [00:03:12] Trump believes, and it's probably true that if it comes out, a bunch of head bankers and politicians and leaders and business leaders are in this, which we know they were, that will crash the stock market. That will just destroy America's image in the world. [00:03:27] And so it's so horrible that they made the decision not to bring it out. After years of saying they will release the Epstein Fowler list, suddenly they're not going to. And we're told it doesn't exist. But then Trump comes out last night and says, well, it does exist. But the Democrats had control of it, manipulated it, which is actually true. [00:03:46] They've had control of it. They would destroy anything they didn't want in there and leave what they wanted in there. I didn't even think about the fact I'm like, oh yeah, they've had the list. They've had the files for years. The Democrats would take stuff out, destroy it. Well, that's obvious. They would leave in and twist and put in what they wanted. [00:04:04] Okay. Not a total nonsense. And by the way. Oh, it would hurt the reputation of America in the international community if it was outed that a bunch of our bankers are disgusting pedophiles that our government has been providing cover for. [00:04:22] First of all, I've got news for everyone in America, okay? The international community does not perceive us in a positive way at all. At all. We are aiding and abetting a genocide right now as we speak. Okay. Even if the Security Council in the United Nations overwhelmingly votes [00:04:39] in favor of sanctioning Israel or doing something to stop the genocide in Gaza, the US comes in and vetoes it right away. We are not perceived in a positive light in the international community as it is. And I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn about, oh, let's protect the rapists [00:04:57] and the disgusting pedophiles because we're worried about the stock market. The stock market will be high, all right. It always rebounds, but we need to find out who among us who in positions of power are disgusting predators that shouldn't be in those positions of power. [00:05:14] They should be in a prison cell. Yeah. Go ahead Jake. And two things about that. I mean, look at who the real populists are, right? So here we are saying no, no quarter given to Epstein clients. Okay. Whereas Alex Jones that by the way, that was a day or two ago saying, [00:05:31] well, maybe Trump is right to give them comfort and aid and hide them. So not so populist after all. Right. So now I on this show, I don't know that anybody's ever criticized Alex Jones more than we have on this show, right? [00:05:47] And what he did at Sandy hook is unconscionable and unforgivable among so many other conspiracy theories that were total junk. But this is not a conspiracy theory. 80% of Americans agree on this. The real conspiracy is that the government is right, that there weren't, that the girls raped themselves and there were no clients, right? [00:06:04] So but the second important thing is you saw Alex Jones there a day or two ago, scrambling to find an excuse for Trump. But as you'll see today, he's saying, nope, I we I gave him a layup on that and he still wouldn't take it. [00:06:20] So now the break is even worse than it was before. So apparently some of the comments that Trump has been making recently in regard to his own base have basically been the final straw for Alex Jones. [00:06:35] Now he says that it was the last straw. And let's watch Alex Jones accuse Trump of treating his supporters like a cult. Your statements about, you know, you people that bring this up don't even deserve to, be involved in this movement. [00:06:55] You are excommunicado. You are. You are henceforth ex-cathedra from the mouth of the god King. You are expelled from the church of the Holy Golden toad. [00:07:13] Donald. John Trump. Well, I was never in the church of the Holy Golden toad. I was never in a cult. I never said MAGA was a cult. I said a lot of people want it to be a cult. It if you start saying I'll excommunicate people, well, you're not allowed [00:07:32] unless it's a cult to say to people, you either agree with everything I do and don't question things, or you're not in our club. I don't want you. Well, that kind of sounds like a thoroughbred cult to me. [00:07:53] Yeah, and look, to be quite frank, it was a cult in Trump's first term. But Trump magic. Trump managed to cobble together a pretty fragile coalition in his second term. And, those people aren't buying his BS, and they're not going to be bullied [00:08:11] into dropping something that they obviously care deeply about. And by the way, one more video before I go to you, Jake, because Jones also admitted that members of Trump's orbit are actively trying to make him drop the story. [00:08:27] I don't want power. I don't want to be in tuxedos at Mar a Lago. I don't want to be at the white House. I've already been invited. I had the white House calling me this morning. That's a whole nother thing. Bunch of big, heavy hitters calling. And, you know, it's like, what do you want, Alex? [00:08:44] How can we make you happy? And I'm like, Can Trump please stop destroying himself and us with him? Well, yeah, he you know, he does what he thinks is best, Streisand effect. Yeah we know. Yeah. You know, don't you? - You know I'm right. - Damn. [00:09:02] So there's Alex Jones publicly admitting that members of Trump's administration are hitting him up and basically trying to trade favors. So Alex Jones drops the story. And I guess to his credit, I mean, clearly he's not dropping it. - So, Jake, what are your thoughts? - Yeah. And that's because his own audience is livid, because if he dropped a story, [00:09:21] then he'd be right next to Trump in the sellout line, right? So. So the vote. Remember what we always said. Blame the politicians. You want to blame media figures? That makes a lot of sense. And you want to, you know. So that's why when sometimes people beat up on us, that's okay. [00:09:38] We're in the game, right? But don't beat up on the voters because those same voters are not even pushing Alex Jones to, you better not support Trump on this issue. On this issue. Right. And that's huge. I watched the whole thing and that whole excuse that Alex Jones [00:09:54] has set up earlier with, oh, yeah. Why don't you just say the Democrats destroyed the files, right. Which is, by the way, he's not wrong about he's wrong that that's what happened. He's obviously making it up ex post facto. Right. But he's not wrong. That that would have been the right excuse. [00:10:11] The right lie. Right. But. So Alex Jones serves it up on a silver platter to Trump and Trump's like, no, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to say that they're non-existent and fake. And anyone who asks for it, like all of my voters, are terrible people and. [00:10:28] Stupid. Stupid and disloyal. Right. Okay. Poll out today, Anna. 79% of all Americans say released Epstein files. 83% of Republicans larger than the national average. [00:10:44] Say released Epstein files. Is Donald Trump involved in a cover up? An astounding 59% of his own voters say yes. Wow. I mean, come on, guys, if you thought they were never going to break with him. [00:11:01] Can I get a tiny bit of honesty without moving goalposts? So, in fact, let me add to that, Jake, because our member Sutton writes in and says the conservative subreddit is livid over this. There is no daylight between the American people on this issue, [00:11:17] which is why I keep repeatedly making the point that the Epstein Files really isn't a Partizan issue. Anyone who's trying to make it a Partizan issue is a hack. The American people meaning ordinary people, in my opinion. I know that there's going to be disagreement, but I don't care. [00:11:32] I think most people are good people. They're kind people. And when they see an injustice, like with what happened in this whole Epstein debacle, they want answers. And I think this is a perfect example of how most Americans are in line when it comes to justice, fairness, you know, rule of law. [00:11:52] So we'll see what happens. But I don't think that people are going to drop this in Trump's base. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So that's why Alex Jones today. I mean, if you watch the whole thing, he goes off and off and says, you're not the Pope, bro. Okay. So, so there's obvious massive, massive. [00:12:11] It's like going over from a rebellion to almost revolution against Trump within his own base here. But you made a great point, Anna. In order to win the popular vote. Trump needed a larger coalition, a larger tent, and when you have a larger tent, it's more likely to break apart because the guys on the one end, [00:12:29] like saw somebody on social media today is like, I voted for Trump. But before that, I voted for Obama. He's like, I'm open. I just voted for Trump because he was less establishment. This proves he is the establishment. He's the elites. So who's next? That's what you want. You want to bring that guy back? [00:12:47] The coalition is so large in order to win the popular vote that those independent voters are not at all like the radical right going, oh. - Yeah, I'll get her Alcatraz. - And all that stuff. Don't lump them in together. It's both factually incorrect and strategically incorrect. Now, I mean, look at what Alex Jones said there. [00:13:02] The the Trump was the the pope of the church of the Holy Golden toad. I don't even know what that means, but it doesn't sound good. Okay, so I hear the toads are gay because of the water or something. So, I mean, that can't be good. [00:13:20] So now finally, So the people who thought that all of manga was a cult, and if you were among the voters that that thought that on the left and you're on the Democrats, I don't blame you guys. The reason I don't blame you is because they were in the first term. [00:13:38] Whatever Trump said, they would just blindly follow. And we were all ripping our hair out. And I'm like, can I get a little bit of daylight, etc. But this is what I've been trying to get through to people, because back then it was just Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. [00:13:54] It was an assembly line of talking points and they didn't get any diversity. Now they got diversity all over the place. Larger tent and includes Rogan. It includes Sarah Vaughan. It includes guys like Andrew Schultz who are lifelong Democrats. So when you have a tent that large and filled with independent media, [00:14:13] even though they might lean right and really frustrate us on issues that Trump's not their uncle, it's it's not Fox News. It's a different media. It's a different voting base. We have to open our eyes to that so that we can react in a way that makes sense, [00:14:30] instead of driving them away by categorizing them as all of them, as the most radical right and yelling at them and accusing them or making fun of them. - Ha ha, you guys were wrong about Trump. - Why don't you invite them in? At least the ones that agree with us, not the ones that don't agree with us and go, [00:14:46] hey, you know what you wanted populism. Good news. We've got populism and it's real. It's not fake. I mean, if an ally of mine is in the white House and they don't release the Epstein files immediately, I will be livid and turn on them instantly. [00:15:02] Okay. There's no. And if they don't do all the things that we asked for anti-war, anti-corruption, etc. No, no, no, no quarter given. Real populism, real honesty, that's what the American voters want. You give that to them and you're going to win a comfortable majority. 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