Jun 6, 2025
The Truth About Trump And Epstein May Be Worse Than You Think
MAGA influencers and news hosts are struggling with the possibility that President Trump could be named in the Epstein files.
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Again, not taking a side here.
Still love Trump and I really like Elon.
This is just a really crappy scenario
right now, and I really hope these two
can patch these things up,
because I think Elon took a low blow
by tweeting that, quote,
DJT was on the Epstein client list.
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If you knew he was on the Epstein
client list, why did you let him
board Marine One with your son?
Just asking.
All right, well, as the fallout continues
over Elon and Donald's breakup,
many are still trying to wrap their heads
around Elon Musk's bombshell claim
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that Trump was on Epstein's client list.
So in the midst of yesterday's,
you know, battle of the blowhards,
Musk posted this and says,
time to drop the real, really big bomb.
Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.
That is the real reason
they have not been made public.
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Have a nice day.
All right, Jake, I know that you
and Sharon kind of spoke about this
a little bit yesterday,
but what do you think about that clip
that we just watched was kind of cringe?
Yeah.
No, no, it was hilarious because.
No, I like them both.
Please, please.
My job is to do propaganda for both.
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I don't know what to do now.
I'm so confused.
Okay.
I mean, they hate each other, so it
forces me to pick, but I won't, I won't.
I'm paid to say I love Donald Trump.
I'm also paid to say I love Elon Musk.
Okay, that was hilarious.
So this Epstein file thing is really
interesting, though, because, you know, I
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think Epstein I'm sorry Elon Musk had that
in his back pocket the whole time.
He's probably, as I said in the first,
I think he's been brewing over this,
budget for a long time because it took out
the electric vehicle subsidies
and he didn't get
a bunch of things that he wanted.
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So he's been stewing in it, and he
couldn't wait to drop that Epstein line.
So he did.
And now we've got the fallout from it.
We'll tell you what the Democrats
are doing about it in a in a minute, too.
But it I what I've seen online,
guys is I've seen a lot of MAGA going.
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Well we really did want
Epstein files released Least,
and they haven't been released.
And it does make you wonder.
So that's why I love this fight,
because they're airing their dirty laundry
and their own side is getting to see it.
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Yeah.
From everything that came out from
whatever happened yesterday, the fallout
from this claim specifically has a lot
of people in MAGA world very shocked.
They're unsure of how to react.
As we just saw in that clip,
it even scared Alex Jones,
who simply tweeted this in response.
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God help us all.
Not dramatic at all. All right.
Meanwhile, Elon continued to tweet about
the connections between Trump and Epstein.
Reposting an old MSNBC report
showing Trump and Epstein partying
together at Mar a Lago in 1992.
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That's nothing new, though.
We've all seen that clip a bunch of times.
We've seen those pictures,
and we have highlighted and reported on
the relationship between Trump and Epstein
here on this network many, many times.
So how do you know this?
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Footage from 1992 found in the NBC
archives, shows the future president
welcoming Jeffrey Epstein
to his Mar a Lago estate.
The get together more than a decade
before Epstein pleaded guilty
to prostitution charges in Florida.
Both men are seen enjoying themselves,
Trump pointing out women dancing in front
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of them and apparently friendly encounter
with a man the president is now looking
to distance himself from.
He was quoted in 2002 saying The New York
Magazine I've known Jeff for 15 years.
Terrific guy.
He's a lot of fun to be with.
It is even said that he likes
beautiful women as much as I do, and many
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of them are on the younger side, which is
just creepy in so many different ways.
All right.
Well, to be fair, evidence does show that
Trump's name is in Epstein's flight logs.
But as of right now, there is no solid
evidence of any wrongdoing on his part.
Still, people did not know
how to react to Elon's claim,
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like Newsmax host Carl Higbie, Higbee,
who looked like he was about to cry
over the news of the breakup last night.
Again, not taking a side here.
Still love Trump and I really like Ellen.
This is just a really crappy scenario
right now, and I really hope these two
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can patch these things up,
because I think Ellen took a low blow
by tweeting that, quote, DJT was on
the Epstein client list, something that he
knows can't be immediately verified.
Also, if Trump was on that island
doing something illegal after all
the legal battles that Biden threw at him,
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if he had done something illegal
with Jeffrey Epstein, you would think
they would have thrown that at him.
No, they pulled out the stops
on everything else.
The only thing we can point to that was
a known association with Epstein
was that he was at his club once.
And by the way,
Trump kicked him out of that club
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because of reported bad behavior.
And also, Ellen, if you knew he was
on the Epstein client list, why did you
let him board Marine One with your son?
Just asking.
But the best thing for Trump to do now is
to release the list, something that also
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our FBI and Pam Bondi have promised us.
Yeah, and that's a valid point, especially
when you consider that he recently stated
he would not let Bill gates babysit his
son because of Gates's ties to Epstein.
And content creator Lil Tay also made
this very valid point.
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She posted this.
So you knew this, yet you still endorsed
Trump, reinstated his account, amplified
his content, and gave him a platform
to spread misinformation and campaign.
You don't get credit for exposing
something everyone already knew was true.
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You're just as complicit.
Very succinct there.
So while Trump has obviously fired back
at Elon on Truth Social over other claims
that Elon has made and his criticism
of the big beautiful bill, Trump has
been mum on the Epstein claim, literally.
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We're going to have
a little discussion now.
Very private.
And I just want to thank you all
for being here.
And thank you very much, media.
Appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Mr. President, your response to Elon Musk
to complain about Nice to see you.
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Nice to see you guys.
Okay. Our audio didn't cut out there.
The hot mics were cut
at a presser last night.
At a roundtable discussion
with the Fraternal Order of Police in
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the State Dining Room of the white House.
So this is from media night
in the closing seconds of the photo op.
Trump thanked the press
and was bombarded with shouted questions.
But the official white House
archive live stream abruptly cuts off
before the shouting begins.
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The shouting can be heard on
other live feeds, but only until the mics
on the pool feed were cut seconds later.
Even as the video feed continued,
Alex Jones again even called
for Trump to respond,
saying Trump needs to respond ASAP.
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I notice he did not take questions
at his public meeting today.
And yes, that's very astute of you,
Alex Jones.
But it's not just Trump keeping quiet.
Even Caroline Leavitt
had shockingly little to say.
So the white House responds to Musk
saying the Epstein files haven't been
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made public because Trump is in them,
with press secretary Caroline Leavitt
telling Sam Waldenberg This is
an unfortunate episode from Ellen,
who is unhappy with the one big beautiful
bill because it does not include
the policies he wanted.
The president is focused on passing
this historic piece of legislation
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and making our country great again.
So there's even more jank one.
Are you surprised that Ellen
is outing Trump in this way?
Or two by the reaction to this revelation?
Because, as we said,
it's not anything new that Trump had said,
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as the guy said on Newsmax.
You know, there's nothing
that can be immediately verified
with anything that he said.
So we already knew
that Trump had some kind of friendly
relationship with Epstein.
So what are we what can we
look forward to with this?
Yeah.
So there's a lighter side
in the and the more serious side.
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On the lighter side, this is,
you know, like, when a couple breaks up
and the mutual friends don't know
what to do and who to side with.
So seeing Maga's reaction in that way
is kind of hilarious,
but Maga's reaction has a serious side.
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Like I said, I'll get to that in a second.
Trump is giving away his Tesla, which is
kind of like giving away or or throwing
away your mixtape that your ex gave you.
I don't want it anymore. Okay.
But now to the serious stuff.
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Look, this isn't just
because Elon said it.
MAGA was already super livid
about Epstein files not being released.
And we, Anna and I have shown you on that
clips about that on the show many times
of, you know, Vinny from Patrick
David's show and so many others going,
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where the hell are the files?
We don't believe you.
We don't believe you.
And they're saying that about Trump.
They're saying about that
about this administration.
At this point, there's a ton of people
who want Pam Bondi fired.
They're mad at Kash Patel,
they're mad at Dan Bongino.
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So this is not going to go away.
This this like usually especially in his
first term, Trump would just say like,
oh yeah, the hurricane did go
in a direction it didn't go.
I magically moved it with my marquee.
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Sharpie. Marquee.
What the hell's a marquee?
With my Sharpie.
And then all of MAGA would be like,
of course, Sharpies can move hurricanes.
The hurricane actually went that way.
Now they're like, half of them are like.
Yeah.
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Epstein files,
should not be released even.
Actually, it's not half.
They really can't get themselves
to say that.
So a lot of them are saying, yeah,
there's something super wrong here.
And Elon Musk now has stirred up
that hornet's nest
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in a way that that's going to be
a huge problem for Trump going forward.
That's my sense of it.
Brett what do you think?
I mean, for me,
there's a lot of weird, framings here.
One is, it seems like people are saying.
Listen, in order to tell
if Donald Trump's a pervert,
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I need to see the Epstein files.
My counterpoint would be,
I feel like I know he's a pervert.
This would just be additional evidence
that he's a pervert.
So if all these right wing people
think that Donald Trump is the champion
of those who are fighting against
child trafficking and the deep states,
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what's been keeping bro.
He's been president twice.
At what point is he going to throw out
all the child sex traffickers?
What is he waiting for?
The Epstein files is just a more obvious
crystallization of this.
But this is a guy who already said
he would date a ten year old in ten years.
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This is a guy who allegedly walked
into the Miss Teen Universe
pageant dressing room.
This is a guy who, like, has said he
would have slept with his own daughter.
And their defense is he's just lying.
Understand this.
Like, it's a bunch of weird levels.
The only way to know who ended up
winning this in the end is if is.
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We just need to see which one of them gets
a haircut because it is absolutely like
a normal breakup where like you're like, I
feel who's who's in worse situation here.
And then like he should one of them
shows up with like a completely new look
and you're like, If Donald Trump
cuts his hair, then he definitely lost.
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But yeah.
And then that guy in the first clip who's
like, oh, I'm not taking a side here.
Okay.
But there's plenty to take a side on
because they are in a fight.
And ostensibly the stuff you can take
a side on is the more important stuff.
It has nothing to do with Epstein Island
and trafficking and all that.
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It has everything to do
with what they're fighting about.
What are you on the right for?
Are you for subsidies
to people like Elon Musk?
Are you for cuts
to like vital programs within the economy?
Like there is something
that the the B-b-b has that Trump wants
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that Elon doesn't want.
Can you please take a position on that?
Because I think that's something a little
more directly affect the livelihoods
of the American people and their freedoms.
Yeah, I think that's part of why
at least I'm not as concerned with
this Epstein revelation, because it's not
really going to change how I feel about,
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you know, anything that Elon Musk is doing
and what he's saying
and or not Elon, but even Trump,
you know, like, I know who he is.
We've known who he's been for years,
even before he was a president.
And then they still elected him.
But what's interesting
about this whole Elon Musk thing
and all these revelations with Epstein is
the right they really just hang on to it.
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Like that is the last bastion
of hope that they have,
that he was not at Epstein Island.
He wasn't doing any of the Epstein stuff
because they've demonized all
that stuff for so long that they're really
not able to walk that back realistically
in a way that they like.
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They can't, you know, I know
that a lot of times they like to lie
and just, you know, pretend like they
didn't say certain things before.
They'll say one thing, say a different
thing the next day and just completely
forget that the other thing even happened.
But this is a completely different thing
because it's like a core tenet
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of who they are.
Everything they've built this brand
off of, you know, going back to Pizzagate,
going back even before then,
and it's going to be tricky for them.
So they they're having like a come
to Jesus moment, it seems here.
And it's kind of fun
to watch for the rest of us.
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Yeah.
Meanwhile, Democrats say
that they want the files released.
Please stop. Please stop.
Biden was in charge for four years.
Why didn't you release them?
Right.
So. God, they're both so unbearable.
Unbearable?
The minute the other side says,
oh, I want the FBI files released.
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Do you do you.
- Whatever.
- At the end of the day, I do.
I want them released.
And I think that is really
where we can all join arms and say,
I would like full information.
I don't care what it says
about the Clintons or the Trumps.
Yes. Just let me know the information.
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I feel like that's also
an easier position to have
and then be able to sleep at night.
You know what? Last thing guys.
This is exactly what unites
the left and the right, because for us,
none of us were on Epstein Island.
And obviously something terrible
happened there, right?
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Not not by the way,
not just the molestation of the kids,
which is already despicable.
Doesn't get any worse than that.
But obviously something else is also
at play here because the government
will not release it no matter what.
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Right?
So that's basically the government saying,
oh, we're not going to tell you.
It's way worse than you think it is.
And and both and the uniparty goes,
screw the people.
We're never going to share
that information
because it obviously implicates someone
or not just someone that's way too small,
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some thing that is super powerful
and does not want you to know
what actually happened.
That's super obvious.
Anyone denying that is in la la land.
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