Nov 3, 2023
Did Candace Owens Just Take A Swing At Ben Shapiro About Israel?
Conservative commentator Candace Owens ripped "genocide," in a social media post that is perceived to be about Israel's attack on Gaza.
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There seems to be a little bit of a
disagreement within the Daily Wire sphere.
The Daily Wire cinematic universe of,
you know, racist xenophobia.
But Candace Owens actually seems,
surprisingly, to take a stand against
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Israel's ongoing war crimes in Palestine,
which I know I'm surprised too.
She tweeted no government anywhere
has the right to commit a genocide.
Ever.
There's no justification for a genocide.
I can't believe this even needs
to be said, or is even considered
the least bit controversial to state.
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Now she doesn't name Israel.
She doesn't name Palestine.
I think we can assume, though,
three weeks on 9000 people dead, that she
is referring to Israel and specifically
some of the bombing of the refugee camp,
the bombing of hospitals, etcetera.
Dave Rubin took umbrage and responded with
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a pretty like some weird, weird graph that
let's talk about what the hell he meant.
He tweets,
well, as I'm sure you know, Candace,
the Palestinian population has five times
has quintupled in the past few decades.
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But thank you for taking a strong stand
against Hamas's stated genocide
of the Jews, which is in their charter.
So he's basically lowkey
saying you didn't condemn Hamas.
And also look at how many more
Palestinians there are.
There are Palestinians.
I don't even know where he got this from.
But like, okay, okay. Does that mean.
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It. Oh, God, oh, God.
Do I have to explain
how like, genocide can work?
Candace Owens responded, in short,
if the blanket statement that genocide
is wrong upsets you in any way,
then you need to check yourself.
I said exactly what I meant and I
won't be backing down or apologizing,
further clarifying this statement.
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And then Dave Rubin said yes,
and I thanked you
for your strong stance against Hamas.
I salute you, which we know is ironic.
Candace Owens couldn't let it go.
Had to get in there one more time,
said me, genocide is always bad.
Dave Rubin, why won't you condemn Hamas?
Absolutely demented.
And yet Candace Owens broken clock.
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Who's right
once every, you know, 12 years.
I don't know when.
Maybe this the first time
you've ever been right, girl.
But you're right.
That's what people are saying
when you condemn genocide.
They say that you, that you,
that it is demented.
And they're like,
why won't you condemn Hamas?
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Guys, I feel part of my soul dying that I
agree with Candace Owens on something.
But also, I'm of the belief that Candace
Owens is actually one giant liar
and she knows exactly what she's peddling,
and that this is just her
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getting out of her lane a little bit.
Yeah, I tend to be of that belief as well,
especially considering,
you know how she got to where she is today
and where she grew up and how she grew.
She actually grew up
not far from where I grew up.
I think, if I'm not mistaken.
But what's interesting
about this whole interaction is that it's
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so perfectly exemplifies what's wrong with
all of these conversations and discussions
and debates that have been happening
on social media for the past three weeks,
or however long it's been.
You see people
who try to make a statement,
then somebody says, well, what about this?
And well, what about this?
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And this isn't unusual
for political discourse in general,
but it's like it's all happening
just in such a vacuum so quickly.
And we're just seeing it
from all different angles.
You know, we're having people
conflating like Palestinians with Hamas,
and you're seeing people conflating
criticism of the Israeli government
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with criticism of the Israeli people.
And that is extrapolated
to criticism of Jewish people,
which is extrapolated to anti-Semitism.
You know, so all these things, all they
do is stifle any actual kind of discussion
or understanding from happening, even
in cases when people want to understand.
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I think for the most part, people,
whenever they're consuming
this type of content, they really want
to understand what's happening.
And we're getting so many different,
conflicting reports from everywhere.
We don't know who to believe.
We don't know what to believe.
We're having people who are bringing
in all kinds of other things
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that we haven't thought about.
So it all gets very difficult to just hold
it all in our heads and make sense of it
and kind of like, you know,
visualize it in a way that makes sense.
So this is what that this exchange
looks like to me is a lot of things
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that don't even need to be said.
I mean, what Candace said
in the first place.
Again, I agree with her as far as like,
why does that need to be said?
Why does genocide is bad, need to be said?
And then why is that
such a controversial topic?
But then you have people who are like,
well, it's not technically genocide.
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So is that what the point was?
That was my first question.
Is that what his point was?
Because I'm still searching for it.
Well, he's basically.
Saying there's yeah, there's
there's Palestinians either.
Is he saying there's Palestinians
to spare so you can kill them?
- I don't know.
- Palestinians.
If there was genocide,
there would be less of them.
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So the genocide, as people are
calling it right now, that's happening.
It has to completely it has
to be done in a couple of weeks.
You know, it has to be zero folks left
because over the past several decades,
he said, it's been five
times the number of folks that.
By the way, again, as you point out,
Yasmin, I believe you did.
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So Palestinians.
But then he goes talking about Hamas.
They know the difference
the same way that we know that.
Candace Owens
I think I agree with both of you guys.
This is a role.
It's it's a it's a
it's an acting role to make money off of
gullible people, I guess have at it.
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But then on the back end,
Dave Rubin knows too.
So it's not like he doesn't know
that Hamas and Palestinians
are two different entities here,
groups of people versus this organization.
So again, the point is to make
that be the reality
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when we see what actual reality is.
Why is that such a hell bent objective
for so many people?
You can still be a appalled
by what happened on October 7th.
Of course I am.
And you can still say,
but let's not do this.
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Why is that so hard?
You can be an American on nine divided
by 11, still mourn and never forget
every year on 9/11 and still go.
But why the hell did we do that
in our name?
Let's not do 8th October seventh
in response to October 7th.
And maybe it has something to do
with the fact that, you know, look,
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the line from the boss, Ben Shapiro,
is very much support Israel at all costs
and all the all of the war crimes.
He responded to Lindsey Graham
basically basically saying there is no
number of dead civilians
that would cause him to restrict or call
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for a cease fire between Israel and Gaza.
And Ben Shapiro quotes me
and said, he's right.
Israel is trying
to minimize civilian casualties.
Hamas is trying to maximize them.
So people like Abby Phillip
will put a cease fire.
If Graham says 10,000 civilians,
this is just incentive for Hamas
to hit that number to achieve.
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A cease fire.
What what we don't have time for me
to properly dissect and freak out the idea
that Hamas would want to hit a number
of dead civilians to then achieve a cease
fire, or that Lindsey Graham would have
any say over what that number would be.
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But this is Ben Shapiro repeating and
regurgitating a lot of Israeli propaganda.
The guy is rabidly anti-palestinian.
The guy is rabidly,
I would say, Islamophobic.
In 2007, he wrote, Palestinian Arab
population is rotten to the core.
Palestinian Arabs have demonstrated
their preference
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for suicide bombing over working toilets.
In 2010, he tweeted Israelis
like to build Arabs,
like to bomb crap and live in open sewage.
This is not a difficult issue.
Hashtag settlements rock.
That is a hat tip
to illegal settlements in the West Bank.
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Guys, any final thoughts?
Yeah, yeah.
Final thoughts?
How do you wrap something like that?
I mean.
Yeah, I mean, it's it is interesting to me
how Islamophobia is so perfectly well
accepted in American society at least,
and anti-Semitism is not I don't
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think we need to be, for the record,
demonizing entire groups of people at all.
We know who is who is
to blame for a lot of this.
There's Hamas on one side.
There's the Israeli government
on the other side.
And I think the people being split
and divided and confused with all of this
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is not helping anything.
It's the same thing we've seen.
It's the, you know, the abhorrent behavior
that we like to take part in
and it's excuse after excuse after excuse.
And I don't know where the shame comes in.
We used to kind of have it,
after we didn't have it.
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It's just we're reverting back
to old ways, just openly being okay
with this type of stuff and to be proud
enough to say it and post it and know that
it's going to stay up there, it's tough.
You can be sad about it.
You can hate what's going on, but then
to want the same thing to happen just
seems like, do you want things to end?
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There's got to be preventative
versus like punitive.
And when you're punitive,
response goes to killing folks
who had nothing to do with it.
What's the end game?
- Is it.
- It that.
See see our other comments
on the Sinai Peninsula.
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