So what we've said is the leadership team is we're gonna allow people to vote their conscience. I think it's the only appropriate thing we can do. We've not whipped the vote and we wouldn't. I trust that people will make that decision thoughtfully and in good faith. I personally have real reservations about doing this. [00:00:17] I'm concerned about a precedent that may be set for that. So, everybody's working through that and we'll see how they vote tomorrow. >> Speaker 2: Yeah, look, no, I mean, I'm super serious, and if you are being critical of Republicans, and I'm gonna say whatever jibber jabber you need to think that we take law and order seriously. [00:00:34] But I'm also not gonna call for them to actually oust him because of precedent or whatever. And yeah, it's mealy mouth and do whatever you want. I'm sure he would prefer that he just, in the closed door session he said that he wants him to step down. [00:00:50] I'm sure that he would love him to be gone. It doesn't look good for the party to expel him, but it also doesn't look good for the party to still have him around. So, Mike Johnson is in a difficult position there, bear that in mind. And additional factors that you should consider, the last time that they had one of these votes, cuz this will be tomorrow, the third vote to expel him. [00:01:08] Even many Democrats did not vote for it, including Jamie Raskin saying, that this is prior to the ethics report coming out. Like, we don't know for sure exactly what he has done. And so it would set a dangerous precedent to kick someone out for lying a bunch. I mean, glass houses on the lying, in Congress. [00:01:26] But even Jamie Raskin says that now he wants him to resign, but he will vote for his expulsion if he doesn't. And so maybe there are a lot of Republicans that are following the Jamie Raskin way of thinking about this. And also I looked up the timetable, cuz you had asked how would he be replaced? [00:01:43] Well, the governor would have to announce a special election within just ten days and in less than three months after that, you would have the special election. So that would be coming quicker than I actually expected that it would. So bear that in mind, but what are your thoughts? >> Speaker 3: I mean, also he loves drama. [00:01:58] Again, he's a little Trumpet, like, so he wants this to continue. He's not gonna resign in shame, but it's true. I thought it was cool. Not cool. I thought it was good that Jamie Raskin and other Democratic representatives were like, look, we need to wait and see what these charges are, [00:02:15] specifically whether he's gonna be found guilty of them. And then I think the amount of charges and the fact that this is only going to be a massive distraction and very drawn out, it's like, yeah, you should resign in shame. But again, this is the Republican party in the year 2023. [00:02:35] How many rape allegations and or actual proven sexual, what was the one that Trump was actually accused of, assault or basically rape of E Jean Carroll. This dude's not resigning. He's still running for president. [00:02:51] So it's like, yeah, why not Santos, keep going, dude. I stand. >> Speaker 2: Yeah, you're 100% right. It's this weird intersection of, what's the thing that they claimed to do? Combined with how much power do they have? Combined with wait, how much does the Base and Fox News like them right now? [00:03:09] And so you can get away with way more than what George Santos has done. I mean, look, the lies. Obviously, Trump has lied more than George Santos could ever hope to, including George Santosian type lies, like making up stuff about his life. But also if the crimes are assault, cuz, as you pointed out, [00:03:26] there's those allegations against Santos too, well, Trump has done way more of that than George Santos ever could. And if the other crimes are stealing from your Base and from your supporters, well, Trump has done way more of that than George Santos ever could. He steals millions upon millions of dollars from these people, [00:03:42] thinking they're suckers the whole time. But Trump has more power and he could be president again. And the Base really likes him, so he gets away with it. Whereas George Santos could perhaps be expelled. It's a sick system. [MUSIC]